Loading...
Symbols:
Get Seeking Alpha Free Stock Alerts by Email!
Get Free Stock Alerts by Email!
Transcripts
- True Religion Apparel, Inc. Q3 2008 (Qtr End 9/30/08) Earnings Call Transcript
- Corporate Office Properties Trust Q3 2008 (Qtr End 09/30/08) Earnings Call Transcript
- PNM Resources, Inc. Q3 2008 Earnings Call Transcript
- Primus Guaranty, Ltd.Q3 2008 Earnings Call Transcript
- Elizabeth Arden, Inc. F1Q09 (Quarter End 9/30/08) Earnings Call Transcript
- SkyWest, Inc. F3Q08 (Qtr End 09/30/2008) Earnings Call Transcript
- SRA International Inc. F1Q09 Earnings Call Transcript
- Syniverse Holdings Inc. Q3 2008 Earnings Call Transcript
- DealerTrack Q3 2008 Earnings Call Transcript
- Providence Service Corporation F3Q08 (Qtr End 09/30/2008) Earnings Call Transcript
-
Editors' Picks
-
Most Popular
- Automakers: Bailout Arguments, Pro and Con
- My Reconsideration: Why Share Buybacks Are Pointless
- Four Commonsense Clues to a Genuine Market Bottom
- GM Could Benefit from Bankruptcy
- Throwing in the Towel on This Market?
- General Electric: Genuine Risk of Collapse?
- Full list of Editors' Picks »
- General Electric: Genuine Risk of Collapse? »
- Apple's Greatest Idea Yet »
- Four Commonsense Clues to a Genuine Market Bottom »
- Should We Really Bail Out the Big Three Automakers with $73.20 Per Hour Labor? »
- Thornburg Mortgage, Inc. The Wall Street Analyst Call Transcript »
- The Pickens Plan Changes Its Strategy »
- GE: Not-So-Good Things Come to Light »
- Memo to Warren: AmEx Preferred at 15%, Warrants at $12 »
- Peak Oil's Bell Is Ringing »
- The9 Q3 2008 Earnings Call Transcript »
- Precious Metals Will Depose Cash from Its Temporary Throne »
Hedge Fund Jobs
Job Seekers: Search jobs by category, get job alerts by email or live feed, apply online See full list of jobs »
Employers: See all recruitment options, get applications online or by email Post a job »
FIG trader
120 Comments
MBIA and Ambac: Edge of the Cliff, Ratings-Wise
Why Kass Is Wrong About Berkshire Hathaway
Einhorn vs. Lehman: Lehman Will Lose
AIG: Another Bear Stearns?
Is Berkshire Hathaway Now a Bargain?
Break Up AIG!
Even for the "excesses" of what he was responsible for, the impact on ROE and BV (book value) growth was almost negligible when averaged over his tenure. Sure any cheating on reserves is a no-no, and he probably did less than any competitors save BRKA among the ten majors. Look at the triangles (yellow books or 10K's )going back decades. And just remember you has the better chance of going into the slammer. Hank or Elliot?
You defer to the rating agencies???? No comment needed.
You also talk about not a fun place to work, and talk about longevity. Who ever said, these were charity organizations; certainly you can't be writing for investors given the longevity of personnel at investment firms
.
You say the problems at AIG are bigger? Please do tell?
And Sullivan can't deal with them. For this latter one, I will give you credit. That's right he can't. And one thing you can be sure of is that probably only one person can and will do the most for agitating and getting the stock higher (we are certainly at or near the low). That is Hank. Where are you Hank when they need you the most?
GSEs: The Tail Wagging the Credit Market Dog?
Richo, Not sure what your disagreement is. Most of your points are correct though don't address the implied methodology for valuing the GSE's. To repeat, it is a bet on stabilization of house prices (reasonable 15% to 25% below national peak price levels), resumption of more normalized spread levels on MBS (GSE and non GSE backed) by 2009/2010, return to 8% to 10% mortgage credit nationally (more than 30 years of history on that), and absolute levels of mortgage rates stabilized below the 6% to 7% range for several years. Somewhat optimistic, but not unreasonable given it will be top of policy agenda (and should be). I am taking cues from Pimco's view on the necessity of multi-pronged policy response to stabilize house prices, and the GSE
s well collateralized guarantee book.
Why I Bought the Ultrashort Financial Sector ETF
GSEs: The Tail Wagging the Credit Market Dog?
2) reversing 2/3 of the MBS mark to market (non-subprime) probably a gradual 12-18 month event
3)Capital will be costly, and it is a race against time, the wider the spreads and deeper discount to book the stock carries, the more dilutive the action. Conversely, if allowed to expand mortgage portfolio aggressively on the cheap and MBS spreads tighten late 2008 2009, they will print money in 2009/2010/2011 and beyond. Lots of thrifts well below book (most of them in fact, of special interest are those based in California). This is the safest if there is another big leg down (which I doubt, but you never know)
First Marblehead: Hostage to the Credit Market
Time to Cut Your Exposure to Investment Banking and Mortgages
Thornburg's a Huge Bargain After Monday's Crash
Tundra: The fallacy of "your" argument is that the assets are worth what they used to be: My argument emphasizes that the "enterprise" value is determined by a)the value of the assets (obviously it is uncertain about where they will be in 5 or 6 month)
b) the savvy of management in preserving capital management (i.e managing liquidity, leverage, credit risk, positioning the firm for times of financial stress. If CFC can go under (for technical purposes, forced sell is tantamount to the same, notwithstanding Bill Miller's assessment of its value, so can TMA. I could care less about GS leverage players or speculators at vulture funds
You keep on trying to presume that I think this, that or other by "shrinking" me. Stick to the subject at hand.
Jack, If I;m not mistaken they just announced that have to restate numbers, and what you pointed out is backwards looking. As much as I enjoy the analytical aspect, I don;t have much more time to spend on details of TMA. Think WM is survivor, as well be IMB and FRE, and FNM. The four horseman, I will call them My own opinion, the bottom (again, and maybe final bottom in the group) will be made in financials this week in the stocks (like that scary Monday, it could be Monday as well). The upside downside for survivors is huge, I agree. Unfortunately TMA won;t be one of them. Good luck
:
Thornburg's a Huge Bargain After Monday's Crash
Jack; I'll repeat; deep pocket investors doesn;t need to buy the whole thing, only parts they want. I'll be brief and to the points (2 of them)
1) don;t know enough about whether all your assumptions are true (earnings power, spreads), but my sense is that they are off by a wide margin. They can't fund new loans, so they can't hold them or sell them. that market is shut out. The business is essentially a spread business; Why buy it for $xx and put up 1 billion (your number), when they can have the whole company for about $300 million (todays market cap close); buy pieces for less than what it cost TMA to originate or buy them
2) new buyer (lets say he buys 35%) doesn't have control of company, adds no new equity; margin calls are still there, no new lenders in sight. Why are they getting margin calls in the first place? use the same analogy, why did you get margin calls after the decline; because the value of the assets (operation whatever you call TMA) is worth a lot less than you originally thought.
Thornburg's a Huge Bargain After Monday's Crash
Thornburg's a Huge Bargain After Monday's Crash
I truly was/am trying to get people to stop listening to uninformed posts about complicated stocks. I have made some bad calls, but usually posit my comments with risk/trader terminology. They still don;t get it, and will continue to fantasize about outcomes; there are few real buyers in TMA probably; my thoughts?. there are vultures shorting every rally,by fueled by ignorant speculators and buying back and covering, like they are in some big names WM< FRE< FNM. But in some of the big names there have massive accumulated positions by big firms Cap Research and Management which has amassed 10% to 20% stakes in these names over several quarters, years. They avoided the tech bubble;