• Font Size:
  • Print

A couple of interesting Bloomberg links for readers from yesterday morning.

First, the recommended Open Exchange program (weekday mornings 8am PST) interviewed one of my favorite money managers, Mohnish Pabrai. I caught most of the program but missed the beginning. I will probably go back and listen to it today as I am curious if they discussed Pabrai’s recent performance. Some people have questioned Pabrai recently as he has really gotten his ass kicked due to some bad investments in companies like Delta Financial and more recently, Pinnacle Airlines (PNCL).

Pabrai is noted for his rabid devotion to Warren Buffett but I’m going to ape Charlie Munger and focus on learning from Pabrai’s mistakes. I know that most folks like to follow the winners but I think the book that would most interest me at this point would be one from Pabrai examining his recent missteps in-depth. In a recent issue of Smart Money, Pabrai insists that the DFC investment (and would probably say the same for PNCL) was a good bet and that he just caught some bad cards on the turn and river, i.e. his two pocket aces got beat by some fluke run. But my feeling is that perhaps, Pabrai strayed outside his core competency and paid the price.

To continue the poker analogy, he thought he had a good hand but there was someone out there with the nuts (the best possible hand in any given deal) and handed him his head. In DFC, the credit crunch triggered by the subprime debacle (which many people saw coming) completely destroyed his thesis. The PNCL thesis centered around no-risk contracts with Northwest and Delta Airlines which aren’t so no-risk once fuel costs skyrocket and viability becomes an issue.

Another interesting point in the interview was Pabrai’s discussion of macro considerations. At several points, he was asked about oil prices, interest rates and consumer confidence and his answers suggested that he really doesn’t spend much time thinking about these things. I know that the masters such as Buffett and Klarman advise that investors use a bottoms-up approach as opposed to top-down (picking a theme and finding stocks that fit it) but I am skeptical that they advocate disregarding the macro picture completely when evaluating investments. In fact, when they speak publicly, all they ever talk about are macro conditions.

I realize part of this stems from the refusal to discuss specific investments but take a quick glance at Klarman’s MIT talk in Oct. 2007 or Buffett’s Squanderville article written six years ago. It’s clear they spend a lot of time analyzing the macro situation and how it affects their investments strategically. Warren Buffett reads 5 newspapers a day. What’s he reading all these papers for? There’s not much bottoms-up company analysis in these papers (including the Wall Street Journal & Financial Times, which focus more on short-term earnings anyway). Knowing what’s going on in the world is a huge part of participating in the markets and value investors aren’t excluded from that requirement.

The strangest part of Pabrai’s venture into Pinnacle Airlines is that it conflicts with his Buffett worship. Here’s an excerpt from another site regarding Buffett’s feelings regarding airline stocks:

Norbury was one of the rare cases when Holmes was not at his best. He asked Watson to use this as a reminder to make sure that he did not become over-confident in the future.

This reminds me of Buffett after his investment in USAir in 1989. Within a few years the airline was in such difficulty that Buffett wrote down the investment by 75 percent while trying to sell the shares at 50 cents on the dollar. Fortunately for stockholders in Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.A) (BRK.B), Buffett was unsuccessful in finding a buyer for within a year or two USAir returned to profitability. In the end, Buffett’s action brought a healthy profit to Berkshire Hathaway.

On a personal level, Buffett admitted that the purchase was a result of sloppy analysis that may have been caused by hubris. To guard against a similar lapse in the future, he once joked, “So now I have this 800 number, and if I ever have the urge to buy an airline stock, I dial this number and I say my name is Warren Buffett and I’m an airoholic. Then this guy talks me down on the other end.” 

On that note, here’s another interesting article which discusses a variety of topics about Buffett. Here’s the quote that caught my attention:

Buffett often decides to buy a company after what looks like a cursory examination of its operations. He agreed to purchase Larson-Juhl after a 90-minute talk with its founder, Craig Ponzio. During his European tour, Buffett told questioners that he had bought Iscar without any due diligence and after just a few days of talks with its top executives, who traveled to the U.S. three times to meet with Buffett and his investing partner, Charles Munger.

No one from Berkshire ever stepped inside an Iscar factory before the deal was done, Buffett says.

“He’s buying on faith, and especially with larger acquisitions, that’s certainly perilous,” says analyst Chuck Hamilton, who follows insurance at FTN Midwest Securities Corp. “If he were to spend $20 billion-$30 billion on a major company, without due diligence, that would really be cause for heartburn.” 

Seth Klarman discussed the important ability to assess and act on a situation with incomplete knowledge in his seminal book, Margin of Safety but perhaps the best summation of this principle comes from an unlikely source:

“…as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know.” — Donald Rumsfeld

My 10,000 foot view is that Pabrai got blind-sided by unknown unknowns that were knowable. Perhaps he’ll talk to Buffett about “recogniz[ing] and avoid[ing] serious risks, including those never before encountered.”

As I alluded to in my glowing review of his book, Pabrai’s biggest weakness may be allowing his Buffett-worship to impede his own voice. There is a Zen saying: “If [on the path to enlightenment] you see the Buddha, kill the Buddha.” You can’t reach your full potential by trying to be someone else.

Disclosure: None

Davy Bui

About this author:
Become a Contributor Submit an Article

This article has 7 comments:

  •  
    Jun 26 10:59 AM
    Pabrai will have to look for a job soon if this crisis goes on. It is hard not to look silly in this situation but it is especially hard if you hold airlines and Sears
  •  
    Jun 26 01:47 PM
    Patience...
    What has Pinnacle got that the others do not?

    Invert, always Invert.
  •  
    Jun 26 07:02 PM
    This article is one of a long series on how value managers suck and we're in a new paradigm where commodities and the BRIC are everything.

    I especially enjoyed this quote 'Knowing what’s going on in the world is a huge part of participating in the markets and value investors aren’t excluded from that requirement.'

    That's clearly a trend followers strategy and has nothing to do with value so no, value investors are excluded. I go back to Buffett's quote 'Stop trying to predict the direction of the stock market, the economy, interest rates or elections'. Buffett made mistakes too but made up for it with plenty of wins, it happens.

    At some point price will follow value and there will be a new trend to follow. In the meantime I'm happy to sit with my fellow dividend/value investors looking like an idiot day in and day out.
  •  
    Jun 27 12:49 PM
    I've been thinking the same thing for some time now about Buffett and macro. I love him to death but I have to say it's a little annoying that as much as he speaks to not paying attention to macro, he has an extremely good hold of the 30,000 foot view of the world. There are nitpicky things that aren't worth one's time, like whether GDP has a plus or minus sign in front of it for 3Q (bottom line is, things aren't well); but as FPA's Steve Romick said at the Value Investing Congress in May, while he almost never discusses macro, it would be putting his clients' capital at risk if he DIDN'T have a grasp of the situation now. His colleague Bob Rodriguez has clearly been all over it the past year, too.

    That said, I think Buffett et al's main thrust is to suggest to the individual investor that over the long haul, making oneself a bottom-up analyst will pay far more dividends than spending too much time on macro; engaging in the latter risks missing the forest for the trees.

    Meanwhile, by the way, I think it's very premature to say Mohnish is wrong about PNCL. Their original NW contract resulted in a big claim during bankruptcy. Not that they'd get 80c on the dollar for it this time, but it seems like it would take an extremely low-odds chain of events from here for PNCL to ultimately have less than $3 equity value (even in BK).

    Seeing as you've read MP's books, you must be familiar with his rollercoaster ride in TSO (from $7 to $1 and back), and I think Frontline followed a similar path. We'll see if this one goes the way of those or the way of DFC.
  •  
    Jul 01 10:56 AM
    Pabrai professes a rigorous adherence to Buffet's basic approach. My biggest concern for Pabrai is that Buffet's two rules are, 1) don't lose money, and 2) never forget rule 1. Buffet has walked the talk and followed those rules closely. As I understand it, the DFC fiasco resulted in a permanent loss of the entire investment. How does that square eith Buffet's approach, and if not, how to fess up, what to learn to prevent a repeat?
  •  
    Jul 02 04:03 PM
    The questions about Pabrai don't stop with Delta and Pinnacle though. Here is a list of some recent investments, and his returns since he reported them:

    HNR -13%
    FFH +36%
    CCRT -83%
    TX +25%
    CRYP -43%
    PNCL -83%
    MDC -23%
    SGU -41%
    USAP -6%
    LEA -62%
    SHLD -28%
    ATSG -88%
    DFC -99%

    BRKA/BRKB isn't listed here which he exited at a decent gain.

    So this isn't a case of one or two investments going bad, nor of them declining just a little. 4 out of 14 declined more than 80%. His motto is "heads I win, tails I lose a little", which clearly isn't panning out.

    Maybe these will all turn out to be TSO investments that rise from the ashes. It is probably too early to pass any judgments.
  •  
    Jul 08 06:12 PM
    Sure, clearly he's had some bets go very sour over the past year. But he's forthright enough to add the disclaimer seemingly every time he talks that any stock he buys goes down 50% as soon as he's bought it. That's been his mantra for a while. So I guess the point is that this isn't exactly uncharted territory for his portfolio. I don't recall his numbers from calendar 2002, but they were pretty ugly, not too far from what he's posting right now. Following that, I believe his calendar 03 performance was north of 100%. Generally speaking I think the odds that he's "lost it" and doesn't bounce back from this are exceedingly low.

    While the subprime fiasco was foreseen by many, an all-out stoppage of the securitization markets was even still in the midst of it all a rather low-probability event that took down DFC. Who knows...lots of heretofore unprecedented events taking portfolios down these days, perhaps there is indeed more to come.

ETFs In Focus

  • Long Ideas

  • Short Ideas

  • Cramer's Picks